Ares, god of war
1. The myth of Cassandra is that she is cursed to (a) always tell the truth and (b) never be believed. Explain how this myth might pertain to some part of the book Lavinia.
2. Aeneas and Lavinia, later in life, discuss selflessness and men and women. What might Aeneas mean by saying "Perhaps women have more complicated selves. They know how to do more than one thing at a time." (121)
3. Put into your own words how Silvia's deer, Cervulus, is in a sense to cause of the war that follows. Why might the killing of Cervulus (116) seem particularly terrible to Lavinia?
4. Why do you suppose Lavinia asks Aeneas to tell her "why [he] didn't come to talk with my father, right away, when he asked you to come affirm the alliance he offered"? 118 Why would she want to know
5. "The waves lapped one over the other on the shore where the tide was rising" (117). Explain this sentence.
5. Find a part of the reading that you liked and explain why.
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Yeena
5. Find a part of the reading that you liked and explain why.
I like the part where Lavinia is listening to her father talk about what happened over the time when Lavinia was kidnapped by her mother. I like it because, while the king is talking, she murmurs the things that he is about to say because the Poet Virgil already told her about what is going to happen. It was very interesting for me because this part of the reading had a spiritual feature to it in a way that she is saying the things that she is not suppose to know and it is working the same way that Virgil anticipated.
Sang Eun
5. Find a part of the reading that you liked and explain why.
"TELL ME SOMETHING I HAVE NEVER UNDERSTOOD," I SAY AS we sit in the small courtyard, the inmost room of our apartment in the Regia. It is a warm morning of June and my husband, who has a great capacity for simple enjoyment, is basking in the early sunlight while we have our breakfast of white figs and new milk sweetened with honey...
I liked the part where Lavinia talking with her husband, Aeneas. This part showed that Lavinia finally got to marry Aeneas as her father and she had wanted. Also, the part explained about Aeneas having to fight with Turnus and killing him. After this part, the story goes back to the past again. I liked it how the story went back and forth, because it was interesting and helped me to concentrate more on the story.
3. Put into your own words how Silvia's deer, Cervulus, is in a sense to cause of the war that follows. Why might the killing of Cervulus (116) seem particularly terrible to Lavinia?
When Silvia's deer, cervulus gets killed by the hunters, Lavinia also feels terrible because Cervulus was a deer that Silvia used to like a lot. In the book it says that they used to let it come in to their (silvia's house) house and eat from the dishes. It was clear that they loved Cervulus as a family and when it dies, it's just like one of their family member dieing. Also because Lavinia knows how much Silvia and her family took care of the deer, it made her feel more terrible.
5. Find a part of the reading that you liked and explain why.
I liked the part where Lavinia's mom, Amata, lies to her daughter to go up the hill. Because the idea of what Amata set up, it was very intelligent. If I was her, I would not think of that way, instead I would just tell her the truth.
Put into your own words how Silvia's deer, Cervulus, is in a sense to cause of the war that follows. Why might the killing of Cervulus (116) seem particularly terrible to Lavinia?
Aeneas's hunters were the ones who shot Cervulus. He shot a deer that was dear to the land and to the farmers of that land. Turnus was already chaffing at the bit to go to war with the outsiders because he wasn't going to get LAviticus's kingdom due to Lavinia's refusal to marry him. When a special deer that the entire kingdom knew and ven may have loved, or at least taken care of, was killed by the foreigners I think that it was like a green light for Turnus to wage war. He was just waiting for the first chance, and he certainly got it. He wants to kill the foreigners or drive them out so he can have Lavinia and her father's kingdom.
Killing Cervulus must seem particularly terrible to Lavinia because he was such a beautiful part of her time growing up. Her memories of running around the country playing with Sylvia all involved that docile, sweet creature. Since Lavinia knows she may never see Sylvia again, and she feels that her life is changing so quickly, the killing off of such a landmark is probably like a shot to the heart for her.
Also, I think that the idea of Cervulus, the most tame and tender buck she ever knew, being hunted and killed by the men of the man she's about to marry disturbs her, too. Of all the deer, they chose the one that would never hurt another animal, never harm a fly. They chose the one deer that was loved by the people, that was loved by Lavinia's best friend Sylvia. I think that she feels things getting out of control, and the death of a creature that never did or would hurt anyone makes it perfectly clear to Lavinia that her world, which has always been the same, is changing, and changing fast. It is no longer kind and craddling, but makes things happen whether the people who thsoe things happen to want a choice or not. They will never get one. She may feel like the deer--caught in a circumstance she cannot escape, and limping back to the place and people she loves, but finding the trouble goes on.
Heather Rhee
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Aeneas and Lavinia has a conversation about selflessness
,men, and women. Aeneas says that women have more complicated selves and they know how to do more than one thing at a time with a rueful smile.
I think he said that because he wants to change himself , a guy who easily gets into the war in a strong way and kills a lot of enemies with a mindless mind.
"He frowns, brooding; he is probably tninking of what he sees as his worst failing: the fury of bloodlust that overcomes in battle.. "
According to the book, it says that Aeneas thinks that his worst failing is himself who turns out to be a sheepdog catching the sheep when he goes to the war.
Women doesn't go to the war. Thus, they don't have to be mad or kill someone when they become mindless. They also thinks a lot and ask a lot of questions to themsleves before they do someting while men usually act first when they get mad. (no offense, men usually punches the person's face right after they get mad when women usually thinks and talk first to slove the probelm.. I'm not sure if I'm right or wrong today..)
1. The myth of Cassandra is that she is cursed to (a) always tell the truth and (b) never be believed. Explain how this myth might pertain to some part of the book Lavinia.
Lavinia is a sweet and innocent girl who has nothing but good and truthful intentions for herself and for those around her. Rarely does she exhibit spite or hate for any character in the book: instead she simply wants to follow her heart in marriage. However, she is ignored and powerless against those around her: she is expected to marry loyalty and bear noble children. If Lavinia expresses ambition beyond this, she is simply ignored.
4. Why do you suppose Lavinia asks Aeneas to tell her "why [he] didn't come to talk with my father, right away, when he asked you to come affirm the alliance he offered"? 118 Why would she want to know
I think Lavinia asked Aeneas that question because she was worried about not being wanted. She was afraid that Aeneas didn't want to come to be her husband. She wanted to know that he really cared about her and wanted to see her. Or she might have known that he was unable to contact the king, but she just wanted to here it from his side of the story.
Sung Kun Kim
2. Aeneas and Lavinia, later in life, discuss selflessness and men and women. What might Aeneas mean by saying "Perhaps women have more complicated selves. They know how to do more than one thing at a time." (121)
- Aeneas says that women can be more selfless than man. He even thinks that the ability of doing more than one thing at a time hasn't come to him yet. I think they are talking about being more sensitive as you grow old. Aeneas tells Lavinia like this because of his "fury of bloodlust that overcomes him in battle, making him a mindless, indiscriminate slaughterer". Men could be hot temperament because of the battle in war when women do not fight in a war. I think that this is what Aeneas means.
Ka Yeon Nam
5. Find a part of the reading that you liked and explain why.
I like the part where Lavinia is runnig off with Maruna to her home. Lavinia was having a bad day, guarded by women, and not allowed to go home. When she is escaping from the women, I was happy that she was finally free from her mad mother, who i trying to make Lavinia marry Turnus, and her women.
Answer to #4:
"Tell me something I have never understood... Why didn't you come to talk with my father, right away, when he asked you to come affirm the alliance he offered?"
I think that Lavinia was interested in this because she wanted to know if Aeneas had been doubtful or unwilling to trust so fully in the power of fate. Since he had been brought to Lavinium by fate and will, she wanted to know why he had not been hasty with his reply to Latinus's proposal for an alliance; he had been so trusting before to the gods. Perhaps he was having second thoughts? Were there other deals occurring? Maybe she was just being curious, but it almost seems paranoiac.
5. "The waves lapped one over the other on the shore where the tide was rising" (117). Explain this sentence.
This is a sentence describing the scene of which a boy shoots a deer. It is attempting to create a picture in the readers mind, with creativity. The waves were crashing on the shore (sand, beach). While the water itself or the tide was rising. Ursuka Le Guin uses some interesting word choices to set this scene up. She could have used words like water, got higher, or the waves crashed. I feel as if she was attempting to set up a mood for this scene with the choice of words she used.
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