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Wednesday, March 4, 2009

Palace Walk 181-196

Only one prompt. You may agree with someone who has commented before you, but you must come up with your own example. Good luck!

Do you think that the author (choose one)

(a) accepts the values of the society he describes in this book without approving or disapproving
(b) approves of the values of this society
(c) disapproves of the values of this society

Explain, and give a quotation that supports your view.

12 comments:

Sang Eun Oh said...

Sang Eun

(a) accepts the values of the society he describes in this book without approving or disapproving

The author doesn't show either approvement or disapprovement about the society in this book. He/She just tells the story, basically what happens and explains how individuals are like and what kinds of personalities they have. He/She doesn't praise or criticize the characters. Therefore I think that attitude of the author of this book is rather narrative and informative than critical and subjective.

Anonymous said...

(a) accepts the values of the society he describes in this book without approving or disapproving.

I agree 100% with Sang Eun. The author is very narrative. They seem to be only recounting the story for the reader, rather than taking a side and proving that the character in question is right or wrong in their actions and thoughts. The author seems to simply tell it like it is, and without taking any one side looking at the situation.

A quote that I hope helps me prove my point is the last sentence in Chapter 29. It goes: "He got control of himself and then turned to leave the room, saying, "Stay in bed till God heals you."

This shows a)The way the author narrates the characteristics and feelings of the characters and b)The way the author does not leave out the reliance on religion that the characters in the book have. He states it as if it's common English, although we--Americans--don't put the word "God" in every other sentence, like some of the characters in Palace Walk. The author takes no side about their religion, and he simply tells the reader about what they do to be part of it and follow it. Also, no matter how intense or how boring the reactions of the characters are, they are described with the same voice of watching, like the author and reader are both simple observers without any prior knowledge about the people in the book.

호두짱 said...

(a) accepts the values of the society he describes in this book without approving or disapproving

The author describes the society without approving or disapproving. The author does not put any thoughts of himself. He just just describes and tells the story pretty much. On page 194, line 11 from the bottom, says "He convinced himself that if he forgave her and yielded to the appeal of affection, which he longed to do, then his prestige, honor, personal standards and set of values would all be compromised", and kicks his wife out. This just shows how selfish Ahmad is and the woman in society does not really mean anything. The author does not put any of his feelings nor thoughts at all.

Unknown said...

Ka Yeon Nam
(a) accepts the values of the society he describes in this book without approving or disapproving

I believe with Sang Eun and others with the answer. The author is just a narrator telling the story. The author does not lead our thoughts but allows us to think about the book by ourselves. On page 191, "She went down to the oven room to resume her routime that had been interrupted for three weeks." show that the author is only telling what happened, not in one's side.

Unknown said...

Yeena Sung

Do you think that the author (choose one)

c) disapproves of the values of this society

It seems that the story of Palace Walk is narrated with a neutral voice by the author. However, even though it seems like it is narrated without any bias, it is. Usually the reader feels that a certain person is a bad character for example, Ahmad. All through this book, he is described as a person with no humanity except for one part when he lets Amina rest and don’t yell at her for going out of the house. However, later in the chapter it explains why he was like that and again the reader gets disappointed at Ahmad. The sentence is, “The problem was that he had not been able to get angry at the suitable moment and his vanity would not let him announce his anger after she had recovered, when he had been calm for three weeks.”This shows that there is some purpose of making one character bad meaning it is biased.

Anonymous said...

Heather Rhee

(a) accepts the values of the society he describes in this book without approving or disapproving

is my choice.
I had read all of the comments from the class and I first thought that Yeena's idea was right because the book really made me to have a feeling that one character is represented as a 'bad' person in the book. However, I realized that the author had contributed nothing to make Ahmad to became a bad person.
The author just narrated the story with a plain view without showing his feelings.
The reason for the readers to think Ahmad as a bad chracter was the culture and the society which the readers were lining in. Fair ,freedom, respecting others are the thing which we (the readers) think as a 'right' thing in our world. Thus, Ahmad, the character who is so unrespectful to his wife, was changed out to be a bad person.
The author didn't asked the readers to hate him and he didn't said any offensive things toward Ahmad.
Therefore, my answer is (a).

(The whole stroy was example. Author really didn't said anything about his idea at all.)

Unknown said...

(a) accepts the values of the society he describes in this book without approving or disapproving

I think the author accepts the values of the society without approving or disapproving because the author doesn't put his or her thoughts in to the book. I think the author just tells the story the way it is. How the characters feels about something, how they react, how they talk. He doesn't put his perspective into the story. For example, he doesn't use "I think", "I believe". He uses "she" or "he" (as the character). He doesn't agree or disagree with the things that are happening to the society in the book he tells the exact story to people

Anonymous said...

a) accepts the values of the society he describes in this book without approving or disapproving

"Meanwhile she bowed her head humbly like a defendant waiting for the verdict to be pronounced."

This quote shows that the society is very extreme and its very patriarchic, and the author shows no signs that this is a bad thing. The author is just telling the story of the family and what events take place. Some of the events are very cruel and would not be tolerated in this society but the author just tells us what happened and doesn't comment about it but just says what happens without and emotion to one side. The author is monotone through out the story and is unbiased.

Anonymous said...

(a)

I think the author does not have a specific idea on whether or not he agrees when talking about the society instead i feal that he disagrees and agrees with certain characteristics and traits of the society. For example if he does not like what some one is doing he might describe it using words like brutal or harsh but i don't eal that he is leaning completely one way or the other.

Anonymous said...

(a) accepts the values of the society he describes in this book without approving or disapproving.

I think that the author, Naguib Mahiouz, does not approve or disapprove of the values of the society that he describes. This aspect of his writing is similar to the author of Things Fall Apart, in the way which they just tell the story. The author of Palace Walk tells the story, sometimes from different perspectives, and does not seem to place his own emotions into his work. "The mother smiled with a mixture of pride and embarrassment." This quote is an example of the author explaining the emotions of the characters, purely factual.

Nicholas said...

I believe that the author:

(a) accepts the values of the society he describes in this book without approving or disapproving

The author doesn't appear to have any biased views in this book. He simply tells the story as it. For example, although he seems to have sympathy for the women of the family, he does not criticize Ahmad for his behavior. Usually if Ahmad is being criticized, it is by his friends. One example of the neutrality of the author is here, where he is describing the dismissal of Amina. Notice how stoic he remains, and only describes how Amina is feeling.

"'I have just one thing to say: Leave my house immediately.' His command fell on her head like a fatal blow. She was dumbfounded and did not utter a word."

David said...

(a) accepts the values of the society he describes in this book without approving or disapproving.
I hate to agree with EVERYBODY ELSE, but our narrator seems to intend just that: to narrate. She doesn't really let her opinion shine through her writing, she simply recounts the events as they occur in the story, from a completely objective standpoint.